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The Hing’s ever-changing comment policy

About a month ago, I posted about The Hing discontinuing on-site comments in favor of a PHPBB messageboard.

It was an experiment and honestly, it failed pretty miserably. It devolved into a mud-slinging bitch fest that was more embarrassing than it was offensive.

I didn’t feel the comments (how they used to be) were enough, but clearly a full message board is too much.

The Hing is based upon The Onion. The Onion doesn’t allow comments at all. For The Hing, however, I wanted there to be some sort of dialog. But, anymore, I’m not sure that’s possible or even a good idea.

Please don’t misunderstand me. Devotees, myself very much included, need a place on the internet where we can say what we like and not be censored or banned. However there are already a couple places that come to mind (Gaudia Repercussions, Pariprashnena, and others).

The Hing is a humor site. At least it tries to be. And I fully realize that with satire, you are dealing with specific real topics that are often times very serious and need to be discussed.

But I’m not sure that I can facilitate this discussion. Like I said, I’m not at all against discussing these things. I’m all for it, as should be obvious. But I’m certain that The Hing is not the place for this.

Let me tell you a story that has something to do with this. Anyone who knows me knows that I’m a huge Bruce Springsteen fan. His first six albums are brilliant. I’m not a huge fan of anything made after the “Born in the USA” album (though it’s good in it’s own way). However, I’ve always respected how Springsteen was a populist. He was for the workin’ man, against “the establishment” and sang songs from the point of view of The Everyman. I loved it. But in 2004, he came out in support of John Kerry for president. I don’t really care who he votes for, or that he votes at all. But when he picked sides, to me, he lost his ability to be appreciated by “everybody.”

That’s fine, he can do/write/sing what he wants. Go, Bruce! But when he did that (and again in this election with the Hope Dope Dealer Obama), he lost something. I’d feel the same way if he sided with a Republican candidate. He picked sides. He alienated people. It’s his choice and he’s got every right to do that, but he did alienate people.

And that’s something I feel that I am doing if The Hing is hosting such a forum. The thing that should be really clear about The Hing is that “everybody gets some.” We don’t discriminate when it comes to dishing it out. And thus, we don’t alienate people (or perhaps we alienate everybody… but whichever, it’s equal!).

When I started The Hing, I wanted it to be separate from me. But now I see that that isn’t possible. The Hing and I (which would make a smashing musical, btw) are simultaneously one, yet different (hehe). And because of that, I’m responsible for what’s posted and what’s said on The Hing forums.

And that’s why there are no longer Hing forums.

We’re going back to how it was, except things will be moderated. I have the final say, so if there’s a problem, I’m the one to be held accountable.

For further reading, please checkout the new guidelines here.

Any tips, suggestions, etc are encouraged.

ps – new article tomorrow!




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Comment by DwijaNo Gravatar
2008-09-11 16:11:37

Just had to write and say I totally agree and support this decision. I wanted the forum to work as much as the next man/woman/tree, but it seemed to quickly descend into a soap box for some and a “me me me” whinge fest for others. Can’t be bothered with either thank you very much. Let’s face it, Iskcon has become the butt of a joke that deserves to be laughed at and what better venue than the glorious Hing, blessings be upon it, and its cotton socks. So I say “on with the show” and be quick about it.

Now you know.

Dwija.

ps. We didn’t burn him.

Comment by ericNo Gravatar
2008-09-11 22:44:30

It’s rare that devotees can have civilized discussions. The stakes seem to appear to be too high for it to not become dramatic. It’s a shame, but that’s how it is.

 
 
Comment by RatiNo Gravatar
2008-09-11 22:27:44

So, basically, it seems like Dwija’s saying, “You did beautifully, Eric”

Comment by ericNo Gravatar
2008-09-11 22:43:24

Haha… indeed.

I’m going to miss you guys.

Comment by RatiNo Gravatar
2008-09-12 09:40:12

Oh, didn’t I tell you, we’ve decided that you should move here. (At least until we’re ready to move.)

Comment by ericNo Gravatar
2008-09-13 23:23:55

So, nothing selfish in that at all huh? hehehe
I wish I could.

But ohhh what would I do?!

 
 
 
 
Comment by CalderNo Gravatar
2008-09-12 01:18:32

I think The Boss lost it when he got the same guy who produced Pearl Jam to produce his records and I trace that to the 3 or 4 songs that were cut for the 1995 “Greatest Hit’s” package. Secret Garden is my prime evidence. Maybe the world just got too fragmented. 41 Shots was his last good attempt in my opinion. I hate to rub salt in wounds Eric, but given your past experience with message boards and forums, I think the end result would have been predictable. While I’m sure the The Hing hosted nothing as Hindenburgesque as Zac Vs. Mitch (the unabridged version) it was probably the much same thing.

Comment by ericNo Gravatar
2008-09-12 08:14:35

Somewhere in the ethers of cyberspace, Zac Vs. Mitch is seen as scriptural. I wish there was an unabridged version that I could read. I wonder if Mitch kept it. He’s nearly that creepy to do so.

Comment by RatiNo Gravatar
2008-09-12 09:41:47

Ohhhhhhhhh…must know…what is Zac Vs. Mitch?

 
 
 
Comment by CalderNo Gravatar
2008-09-13 01:34:06

I think it would a tremendous anthropological loss if the epic of Zac Vs. Mitch was lost to history. I’d still love to publish it into a Beowulf or Odyssey. That Children’s Party Songs LP cover you send me was awesome. Shit like that is all over China. Saturday mornings were the best if you got up at first light, old people would be selling their Party accessories for next to nothing. I have a set of lush prints depicting Mao helping the people, the Chinese people “helping” the world to Socialism, and even one of Mao on vacation with his family. The Cultural Revolution was dark beyond words and literally touched everyone of a certain age(and I’m talking about millions of people).
Zac Vs. Mitch was the glorious tale of two robust combatants who challenged each other for the right to reign supreme braggart over The Scene in Central Pennsylvania. It’s a cautionary tale for any society who becomes insular enough to think they are the only ones on this island Earth.

 
Comment by VUNo Gravatar
2008-09-22 21:26:24

“I wanted the forum to work as much as the next man/woman/tree, but it seemed to quickly descend into a soap box for some and a “me me me” whinge fest for others.”

Hey, “Dwija,” remember this: Whatever goes around comes around. Be careful not to minimize the life experiences of others or you’ll sooner or later find yourself on the receiving end of the very “tests” and “challenges” you so readily judge others for.

Later…and don’t let the screen door hit you in the ass on your way out.

 

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