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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8809</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 18:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a shame. And sort of lame. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s pretty fixable, fonts generally are. But hopefully BBT, etc comes up with a better Vedabase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a shame. And sort of lame. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s pretty fixable, fonts generally are. But hopefully BBT, etc comes up with a better Vedabase.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8806</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 09:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nup, my fonts look a lot worse than your screenshot, they&#039;re unbearably dark. Might be the nv graphics driver, or the high resolution I like my screen at, don&#039;t know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nup, my fonts look a lot worse than your screenshot, they&#8217;re unbearably dark. Might be the nv graphics driver, or the high resolution I like my screen at, don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8781</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just weird. I&#039;m not sure how fonts work in Wine, but it should be close to windows. If you open the screen shot that I have in the post, that&#039;s how the fonts look to me.  Just a little different, not really even wonky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just weird. I&#8217;m not sure how fonts work in Wine, but it should be close to windows. If you open the screen shot that I have in the post, that&#8217;s how the fonts look to me.  Just a little different, not really even wonky.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8780</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 08:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah,

I tried it out, they are awfully dark. It&#039;s like all the text is in bold. Ah well, back to Vista. When (if) they release a Linux version I will jump back on the Ubuntu bandwagon.

Thanks for your help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah,</p>
<p>I tried it out, they are awfully dark. It&#8217;s like all the text is in bold. Ah well, back to Vista. When (if) they release a Linux version I will jump back on the Ubuntu bandwagon.</p>
<p>Thanks for your help.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8775</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 02:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had it under VMware as well. It was fine and did what it was supposed to, but I just wanted something a little simpler. Thankfully, Wine stepped in. 

The fonts are very readable, just different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had it under VMware as well. It was fine and did what it was supposed to, but I just wanted something a little simpler. Thankfully, Wine stepped in. </p>
<p>The fonts are very readable, just different.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo Rubbo-Ferraro</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8772</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo Rubbo-Ferraro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep,

As far as HTML goes, yes it could all be HTML or XML - I believe the NFO files that Folio uses are akin to some type of HTML/XML. But it would be nice to have an app that was a bit more powerful than your browser; powerful search functions would be most handy.

As far as PDF goes - yes I&#039;ve done it. You can export NFO files form Vedabase into RTF files then convert them to PDF. Doing large files will grind your system to a halt but taking it bit by bit works a treat. I then used Acrobat 8 to fully compress them and convert them to PDF. Oh, that&#039;s right Adobe had a problem with the proprietary fonts but I found a way around it by using an open source text editor before converting. Anyway, long story short - yes you can package the books in the Vedabase verbatim and even have them as separate books, bookmarks an&#039; all, but packaged as one.

The only trouble with this is the search function is tediously slow and diacritics don&#039;t show up in the search results. Although I&#039;m sure Adobe might be able to make a patch for a small fee.

Wow, a cross-platform app in the works? That&#039;s great news. And yes, I believe that Linux will be the OS of the future. I have had an on/off love affair with Ubuntu for a few years now. I&#039;m not currently using it for 2 reasons; 1. My nvidia graphics card is a nightmare to get working in 8.10, and 2. The Vedabase.

I previously had the Vedabase running under Vmware - it&#039;s completely free and a totally awesome emulator. 

Now that you have given me the pointers on running Vedabase naively on Linux I am very tempted to give it a go again.

When you say the fonts are wobbly, are they perceptibly readable?

Cheers,
Lorenzo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep,</p>
<p>As far as HTML goes, yes it could all be HTML or XML &#8211; I believe the NFO files that Folio uses are akin to some type of HTML/XML. But it would be nice to have an app that was a bit more powerful than your browser; powerful search functions would be most handy.</p>
<p>As far as PDF goes &#8211; yes I&#8217;ve done it. You can export NFO files form Vedabase into RTF files then convert them to PDF. Doing large files will grind your system to a halt but taking it bit by bit works a treat. I then used Acrobat 8 to fully compress them and convert them to PDF. Oh, that&#8217;s right Adobe had a problem with the proprietary fonts but I found a way around it by using an open source text editor before converting. Anyway, long story short &#8211; yes you can package the books in the Vedabase verbatim and even have them as separate books, bookmarks an&#8217; all, but packaged as one.</p>
<p>The only trouble with this is the search function is tediously slow and diacritics don&#8217;t show up in the search results. Although I&#8217;m sure Adobe might be able to make a patch for a small fee.</p>
<p>Wow, a cross-platform app in the works? That&#8217;s great news. And yes, I believe that Linux will be the OS of the future. I have had an on/off love affair with Ubuntu for a few years now. I&#8217;m not currently using it for 2 reasons; 1. My nvidia graphics card is a nightmare to get working in 8.10, and 2. The Vedabase.</p>
<p>I previously had the Vedabase running under Vmware &#8211; it&#8217;s completely free and a totally awesome emulator. </p>
<p>Now that you have given me the pointers on running Vedabase naively on Linux I am very tempted to give it a go again.</p>
<p>When you say the fonts are wobbly, are they perceptibly readable?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Lorenzo.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8769</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this could be done via HTML or PDF. I&#039;d certainly pay a nominal fee for that. 

Prabhupada always said that something should be charged for books distributed on the street. I get that. If people pay a little for something, they&#039;re more apt to read it. But Vedabase is for devotees. It&#039;s not wanted at all by nondevotees. 

There is, however, a cross-platform system in the works. I don&#039;t know anything more than that about it though. I believe it&#039;s being developed by the Archives.  This was a year or so ago that I heard about it, so who knows now. 

But I see it like this - many of the devotees who get Vedabase (that aren&#039;t sannyasis, etc) are very computer savvy. Most computer savvy folks are anti-copy protection and very pro-open source. 

More and more devotees are switching to linux. I think you&#039;ll see a change with the next Vedabase edition. If I&#039;m wrong, it&#039;s only because ISCKON just doesn&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this could be done via HTML or PDF. I&#8217;d certainly pay a nominal fee for that. </p>
<p>Prabhupada always said that something should be charged for books distributed on the street. I get that. If people pay a little for something, they&#8217;re more apt to read it. But Vedabase is for devotees. It&#8217;s not wanted at all by nondevotees. </p>
<p>There is, however, a cross-platform system in the works. I don&#8217;t know anything more than that about it though. I believe it&#8217;s being developed by the Archives.  This was a year or so ago that I heard about it, so who knows now. </p>
<p>But I see it like this &#8211; many of the devotees who get Vedabase (that aren&#8217;t sannyasis, etc) are very computer savvy. Most computer savvy folks are anti-copy protection and very pro-open source. </p>
<p>More and more devotees are switching to linux. I think you&#8217;ll see a change with the next Vedabase edition. If I&#8217;m wrong, it&#8217;s only because ISCKON just doesn&#8217;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo Rubbo-Ferraro</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8768</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo Rubbo-Ferraro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S

Thanks for the email. Not long ago I sent a rather lengthy letter to the GBC along the lines that Srila Prabhupada&#039;s writings should be free for the world to read. I stated therein that currently as it stands those in third world countries - heck even the average westerner - must fork out a small fortune to get access to his transcendental teachings. 

I commended the efforts of projects like Vedabase.net and Vanipedia.org but pointed out their shortcomings as well; they require an internet connection, and they are far from complete even after all these years.

I pointed out that currently the only complete works of Srila Prabhupada is the Bhaktivedanta Vedabase - $400 a pop. And that in reality this could be free. How? Well the expenses for producing the Vedabase are as follows:

-	Proprietary Software: Vedabase runs on Folio Views, for which ISKCON has to pay a licence to use.

-	Proprietary Fonts:  I believe (but am not entirely sure) that these fonts cost money.

-	The writings of others: There is a lot of non-Prabhupada writings, by which I’m sure ISKCON has to pay for.

-	Copy protection:  The ridiculous Safedisc copy protection is an unnecessary and large expense.

So, the solution I proposed was this: Develop a free open source piece of software that is akin to Folio Views (A fairly easy task for programmers). Use open source fonts – yes, there are plenty of free open source fonts for Devanagari and other scripts. Exclude the writing of others and only have Srila Prabhupadas – no more licensing fees, and lastly ditch the copy protection. 

I then had a dream that this CD could be shipped anywhere in the world for the price of postage – wow, people in third world countries getting everything Srila Prabhupada wrote, reading it on their Ubuntu systems – for 3 bucks!

Of course, they replied saying that it is an interesting idea and they will discuss it – haven’t heard anything for a year now.

Cheers,
Lorenzo Rubbo-Ferraro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S</p>
<p>Thanks for the email. Not long ago I sent a rather lengthy letter to the GBC along the lines that Srila Prabhupada&#8217;s writings should be free for the world to read. I stated therein that currently as it stands those in third world countries &#8211; heck even the average westerner &#8211; must fork out a small fortune to get access to his transcendental teachings. </p>
<p>I commended the efforts of projects like Vedabase.net and Vanipedia.org but pointed out their shortcomings as well; they require an internet connection, and they are far from complete even after all these years.</p>
<p>I pointed out that currently the only complete works of Srila Prabhupada is the Bhaktivedanta Vedabase &#8211; $400 a pop. And that in reality this could be free. How? Well the expenses for producing the Vedabase are as follows:</p>
<p>-	Proprietary Software: Vedabase runs on Folio Views, for which ISKCON has to pay a licence to use.</p>
<p>-	Proprietary Fonts:  I believe (but am not entirely sure) that these fonts cost money.</p>
<p>-	The writings of others: There is a lot of non-Prabhupada writings, by which I’m sure ISKCON has to pay for.</p>
<p>-	Copy protection:  The ridiculous Safedisc copy protection is an unnecessary and large expense.</p>
<p>So, the solution I proposed was this: Develop a free open source piece of software that is akin to Folio Views (A fairly easy task for programmers). Use open source fonts – yes, there are plenty of free open source fonts for Devanagari and other scripts. Exclude the writing of others and only have Srila Prabhupadas – no more licensing fees, and lastly ditch the copy protection. </p>
<p>I then had a dream that this CD could be shipped anywhere in the world for the price of postage – wow, people in third world countries getting everything Srila Prabhupada wrote, reading it on their Ubuntu systems – for 3 bucks!</p>
<p>Of course, they replied saying that it is an interesting idea and they will discuss it – haven’t heard anything for a year now.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Lorenzo Rubbo-Ferraro.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorenzo</title>
		<link>http://www.littleblackstar.com/blog/2008/09/04/vedabase-on-linux/comment-page-1/#comment-8742</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorenzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 07:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I also have paid for the full version of Vedabase plus numerous upgrades. I have several older versions that require the dongel, and the latest: 2003.1

I had no success installing any of them on Ubuntu using Wine (using Vmware was fine, but It would be nice to do away with the Windows installation). 

I never had a cracked version, nor can I find one on the net. Eric could you email me please.

- Lorenzo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I also have paid for the full version of Vedabase plus numerous upgrades. I have several older versions that require the dongel, and the latest: 2003.1</p>
<p>I had no success installing any of them on Ubuntu using Wine (using Vmware was fine, but It would be nice to do away with the Windows installation). </p>
<p>I never had a cracked version, nor can I find one on the net. Eric could you email me please.</p>
<p>- Lorenzo</p>
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