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eric on Mar 4th 2008 at 9:00 am Politics

Anti-War? Voting for Obama?

I’m kind of getting tired of Barak Obama. Wait, that’s not exactly true. I’m getting tired of anti-war folks supporting a pro-war candidate. Yet again. It’s just like 2004 and John Kerry. Was I expecting too much out of “informed voters”?

Here’s a fun little Obama quote about his plans for the war:

“Our men and women in uniform are performing heroically around the world in some of the most difficult conditions imaginable. But the war in Afghanistan and the ill-advised invasion of Iraq have clearly demonstrated the consequences of underestimating the number of troops required to fight two wars and defend our homeland. That’s why I strongly support the expansion of our ground forces by adding 65,000 soldiers to the Army and 27,000 Marines.”

So, I mean… if you’re voting for Obama because you WANT to send 92,000 more troops into battle, go for it. But if you’re bitching about Bush and the war and want to see everyone come home and are still voting for Barak Obama, you’re amazingly off your mark.

About Obama:

LeftSince taking office in January 2005 he has voted to approve every war appropriation the Republicans have put forward, totaling over $300 billion. He also voted to confirm Condoleezza Rice as Secretary of State despite her complicity in the Bush Administration’s various false justifications for going to war in Iraq. Why would he vote to make one of the architects of “Operation Iraqi Liberation” the head of US foreign policy? Curiously, he lacked the courage of 13 of his colleagues who voted against her confirmation.

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I came across a devotee blog where a brahmacari (celibate monk) said of Obama: “Obama is a true leader in the spirit of Lord Brahma’s instruction.”

And I’m super sure that Obama is totally into Lord Brahma, right?

He goes on to say, after posting a video of Obama speaking in a church: “he is speaking on a deeper level than at most of his campaign speeches. Here one can get a glimpse of his genuine depth of spiritual realization.”

And I’m super duper sure that Obama’s got oodles of spiritual realization. That’s why he’s running for office. Everyone knows politicians are good, honest people.

Ok, I’m not really shocked that my so called liberal friends are support this schmo, but when a celibate monk whose only duty is to worship starts saying wacky things about Obama’s “genuine depth of spiritual realization” I’m nearly convinced that ol’ Barak is passing out the Kool-Aid.

Waketh thou up.

Here’s a short article by a SEVENTEEN year old who’s figured it out.
And a very lovely article here.

And finally…
Top Ten Ways Democrats Differ from Republicans

1. They tell different lies to get elected
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Comment by RatiNo Gravatar
2008-03-04 09:54:43

“Obama is a true leader in the spirit of Lord Brahma’s instruction.” Wow! I…don’t really know what to say. The fact that someone could say such a thing (not on the hing) is really disturbing.

Sure, he’s probably charismatic (I’ve only seen him on your video) but come on! Another example of how a nice smile and “flowery words” can be all it takes to be seen as spiritually advanced. Sad.

What’s the saying? Something like “Don’t be enamored by the jewel on the head of a serpent.”

 
Comment by NedNo Gravatar
2008-03-05 02:57:18

Though my personal views are nearly identical to Dennis Kucinich’s, I don’t think either the world is ready for him, or perhaps he isn’t ready for the world the way it is. As much as I love him, I think if elected he’d be me in the 7th grade, getting beat up every day.

Barack or Hillary, though not ideal presidents, either one compared to what we have now would make stellar replacements (i.m.h.o.).

I like Obama over Hillary because he’s anti-death penalty but I’d be excited to see Hillary in charge if for no other reason than as a wake-up call to those countries who mistreat their women.

If we are the world police we need to be doing something about human rights, especially for women in some of these back-assward cultures.

ps- do you guys celebrate Mahashivarathri? It’s tomorrow you know.

Comment by ericNo Gravatar
2008-03-05 08:20:15

hehe, being an anarchist, i’ll have to disagree, but i bet you already knew that.

as for shiva-ratri(as we call it), not really, no. let me explain that. prabhupada didn’t establish it as it wasn’t a gaudia-vaisnava holiday. he wasn’t anti-siva or anything, but it just wasn’t one of ours. however, many iskcon temples, in order to cater to the local hindu population (ie – ka-ching!) do hold big festivals for it and other hindu holidays that aren’t typically celebrated by gaudia-vaisnavas.

 
 
Comment by NedNo Gravatar
2008-03-05 12:47:16

Do you disagree with me on some or all points political? I remember you being an anarchist, but I’m not sure exactly what that means to you. (were you the one who told me about the bus driver quitting en-route?)

Maybe one of these days you could blog it up about how your views of an anarchist society might function. Not to put you on the spot, even your idealistic view would be of interest to me.
I’m no big fan of the system, God knows. I have major issues with the judicial branch, and with how our govt. chooses to spend money.

If I were president, I would secede us to Canada.

Comment by ericNo Gravatar
2008-03-05 13:50:26

someday we’ll sit around and talk about it. i don’t find myself a very good (political) writer.

i guess i mostly disagree that either hillary or obama can/will change things. but i don’t really think anyone that is elected can/will.

i like the idea of canada. but soooo cold!

the bus driver story sounds familiar, but i don’t really remember it. hm… refresh?

oh, and check out what i posted today. i think you might dig it.

 
 
Comment by scottNo Gravatar
2008-03-05 20:01:09

Funny thing about history repeating itself…I’m more than old enough to remember that Carter was REALLY hated by everyone kinda like Bush is now. People saw that Reagan actually “believed” in something, they really didn’t know what it was necessarily but they loved his refreshing change from the ugly political cynicism of the past.
That really reminds me a lot of the aura around Obama. Nobody has really yet to question “just who is this guy” but love that he actually stands for something. Of course, what he stands for is “change”. Mind you, voting Tom Metzger into office would bring about some real “change” but obviously not good change. Change in and of itself isn’t always good.

This election reminds me of what PJ ORourke said: If God had wanted us to vote, he’d have given us candidates.

 
Comment by NedNo Gravatar
2008-03-05 21:49:15

I think the candidates this year are the best I’ve ever seen. Even the candidates I don’t like have at least one point that I agree with. (or maybe I’ve just done more research this time around than ever before.)

Eric, maybe I used ’secede’ incorrectly. What I meant was that I would surrender the u.s. to Canada so that we would be the u.s.c. instead of u.s.a.

I don’t know how they run things over there, really. All I know is that they don’t have to lock their houses and nobody ever gets shot.

Here’s a quiz that you(anyone) can take to see which candidate matches your own personal views the most. http://www.speakout.com/VoteMatch/senate2006.asp?quiz=2008

I hope this doesn’t offend your anarchist sensibilities, Eric. But the way I see it, we have to change what we can, (no sense in trying to change what we cannot) and we now *can* vote, so what the hey, aye?

The anarchist bus story (as I recall it):

A bus driver got fed up with his job one day and parked the bus on the side of the road. He just walked away with a bus load of people. One person on the bus rode every day and had to get to work. She drove the bus all the way to her stop, making sure to stop at all the proper stops to pick ppl up/let ppl off along the way, and when she got to her stop, she left.

That’s when another person on the bus stepped up and did the same thing. In this way, they were able to function without a professional bus driver.

It is this idea of peaceful chaos that paints a picture of anarchy as I like to envision it.

 
Comment by CalderNo Gravatar
2008-03-05 23:01:54

It all sounds vaguely like The Pepsi Challenge to me. And your map was spot on Eric. Nature had as much value in China as Human Life. Little to none depending on how the market was fluctuating that day. And yes “market economy” is apparently a big part of communism.

 

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