Bhagavad-gita: Bewilderment of memory (2.62-63)

These are two of my favorite verses from the gita. I’ve dug them from the first day I heard them. And then Yoda goes and says something similar in one of the Star Wars prequels. I doubt that Lucas was reading the Gita (if he were, maybe the movies would have been better – or, better yet, not made at all), but these are universal truths, so he probably just got lucky.

Anyway –

Chapter 2, Verses 62 & 63

While contemplating the objects of the senses, a person develops attachment for them, and from such attachment lust develops, and from lust anger arises.

From anger, delusion arises, and from delusion bewilderment of memory. When memory is bewildered, intelligence is lost, and when intelligence is lost, one falls down again into the material pool.
-Srila Prabhupada

When one contemplates the sense objects, attachment for them is born. From attachment, desire is born; from desire, frustration; and from frustration, delusion. When one is deluded, memory is lost; with the loss of memory, the power of discrimination is destroyed; with the destruction of discrimination, one’s own self is lost.
-Tripurari Swami

By meditating on the objects of the senses, one develops attachment. Attachment gives rise to desire, which in turn leads to anger.

Anger gives rise to delusion, and from delusion comes loss of memory, forgetting the instructions of sastra. Loss of memory destroys intelligence, and when the intelligence is destroyed, everything is lost and one again falls down into the material pool.
-Narayana Maharaja

For a person dwelling
    on the objects of the senses,
    attachment to them develops;
From attachment,
    selfish desire develops;
    from desire, anger develops.

From anger comes
    bewilderment;
    from bewilderment, 
    disturbed memory;
From disturbed memory, 
    loss of discernment;
    from loss of discernment
    one becomes lost.
-Garuda dasa

Just a quick note, the Tripurari Swami version combines both verses into one. All of the others keep them separate. One thing that I will point out is that Prabhupada’s original Gita feels like it’s lacking some commas and semicolons. I particularly like how Tripurari Swami punctuated these verses. I’m very used to the MLA style manual. I don’t think that was around in the 60′s. If it was, it definitely has changed since then.

Incidentally, the revised version of Prabhupada’s Gita adds a semicolon, but other than that, is punctuated similarly. The other difference is that it cuts a pronoun (“them”) and replaces it with “sense objects” (which come right after the new semicolon). I’m not going to get into any sort of analysis between the original and changed versions of Prabhupada’s Gita. There are many other websites that do that. I’m simply presenting four different translations.

So my thoughts on this? The thing that sticks out most for me is Narayana Maharaja’s inclusion of the phrase “forgetting the instructions of sastra.” While certainly true, there’s no mention of that, even in his word for word translation. Also, Tripurari Swami translates the sanskrit word “buddhi” as “discrimination.” Prabhupada and Narayana Maharaja both translate it as “intelligence.” Garuda dasa calls it “discernment,” which is sort of a compromise between “intelligence” and “discrimination.”

I’ve seen other Gitas translate “buddhi” as “wisdom.” There are subtle differences between these definitions, but the point remains the same: when memory is lost or bewildered, discrimination and intelligence and wisdom are lost. That bit has always troubled me since I have a VERY bad memory. But this memory loss (or bewilderment) comes from anger.

However, in this case, Narayana Maharaja’s Gita has amazingly excellent purports to explain this memory loss thing. Tripurari Swami’s purport very much mirrors Narayana Maharaja’s, but is well worth reading too. Prabhupada’s purport seems to take a more general approach to this verse and he doesn’t touch on anger. But reading it after reading the other two, you get a greater understanding of what it is to remember in Krishna consciousness. And that’s really the important thing here.

I didn’t want to get into the purports, but there I go!

And now I go off to bed!

4 Responses to Bhagavad-gita: Bewilderment of memory (2.62-63)

  1. I was thinking about these verses today, and that brought me back to your blog. I particularly appreciate your comment about the punctuation in the verses in Tripurari Maharaja’s edition. I was one of the editors, and that’s something I’m rather pleased I got to do.

    I’ve been wanting to ask you, Eric: Why Santa Rosa? Are you aware that Agnideva has a Govinda’s Restaurant there (near the community college) and that Tripurari Maharaja’s place is about an hour and a half away?

    • Well *thank you* about the punctuation. Back in my (shortly lived) college days, I was a stickler for the MLA punctuation rules. I’m not sure which style manual you went by, but it’s definitely a good job.

      And why Santa Rosa? Well, I visited there a few years ago and dug it. Great place for a lot of things. Including devotees. I went to Govinda’s and saw Tripurari Maharaja and then went to SF Ratha the next day (or so). It was just a really sweet and caring vibe. So I figured there is as good or better than anywhere else. We’ll see. It’s not definite, but it’s as close as I’m going to get to definite.

  2. I’m very familiar with the MLA style because I taught writing in college for 16 years. Tripurari Maharaja uses the Chicago Manual of Style, which is a standard for much professional publishing. It accommodates many elements of MLA, APA, and the CBE styles.

    I think Santa Rosa is a good destination. It seems like a nice place (I only passed through on my way from my sister’s place in Palo Alto to Tripurari Maharaja’s place in December), and I was comtemplating moving there from the Big Island a few years ago for preaching. My wife wasn’t eager to move at the time, so we’re still here.

    • I’m not familiar with the Chicago. I mean, I know of it, but not much more than that.

      We’ll see how Santa Rosa treats me. I’m really exciting about it, but it seems like a dream at this point. Pray!